Who ever wrote this doesn’t understand ballistics or long range shooting. (Pro tip: they can’t.). Went home and found a dandy load in the Western Powders Load Book, 7th ed. Interesting perspective. Close range 6.5 creedmoor definitely only hits harder than your suggested 44 mag at 800yds . And please don’t be too hard on Ohio. Wow, if I listened to your advice and half the comments on here I wouldn’t have gone with a .450 Bushmaster AR. 7mm mag is NOT legal, and it’s not going to be. Please bear with me regarding possible misspelling of the lady’s last name. What about Bob Seger? 450 Bushmaster is the big bore good of AR , in fact I wouldn’t own one if I couldn’t fire off fifteen in a row without stopping. I’d like to see an article on 8.6 creedmoor. So I’m not going to sit on stand with 12 ga slugs wishing I had a rifle when I can build and afford a good, reliable, accurate rifle like my Bushy that far outperforms any shotgun option. 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The .450 generates a tremendous amount of recoil, even in an AR. The Mesa weighs in starting at 6.5 pounds and is backed by the Christensen Arms Sub-MOA Guarantee. It isn’t a long-range round, but it’s capable of delivering more lead inside its effective range than almost any other round in common use today. Like a sports car or model A. It looks like a better solution would be to resurrect the old Winchester .351 and .401 cartridges. The Amish love them. Brownells is your source for Rifle Barrels,Barrel Parts at Brownells parts and accessories. It’s about the only size left that hasn’t got the word magnum hung on it anywhere. Got 2 deer with it this year but the range is far more limited, (for me), than will be the 450BM. I have shot numerous 450s out to 300 yard target shooting and all of them shot sub-moa groups at the 300yd mark using factory ammo! The information about the round (except for the recoil, which is more of a shove than a hit, and the overemphasis on magazine problems), where the author sticks to the facts, is accurate. It is the prerogative of government to know close to nothing about any given subject when making policy, and it isn’t your fault that you are so woefully uninformed. This rifle has a 22-inch barrel and is fully ambidextrous. To my DNR and local government readers out there, please take no offense. Rounds can lift point-up and cause the action to jam. States across the country are now allowing the use of straight-walled cases in what used to be shotgun-only zones for deer. Amen Dan. I knew absolutely nothing about this Cartridge before this article so I guess I learned something. 4) has WAY better ballistics than .44 mag or .357 mag -and you can’t build an AR for them anyway -and the least espensive levergun for those is approaching $1,000, or at least $700 (and the Ruger American in .450B at around $500 is NOT second class rifle, either.). Like the magazine in particular? Im really enjoying this gun. But no one complains about overpowered. At 50 grains Im compressing the load and sending the FTX pill downrange at 2540 fps, which I also recorded at 45.5gns during development. Trident Armory up here in Maine is making some kick ass AR’s in .450BM. Stupid iPhone, or fat thumbs, or…). Cooper was dissatisfied with the small-diameter 5.56×45mm NATO (.223 Remington) of the AR-15, and envisioned a need for a large bore (.44 cal or greater) cartridge in a semi-automatic rifle to provide one-shot kills on big-game animals at 250 yards. Many lever guns have limited accuracy past 150 yards, but the .450 BM is able to perform within MOA all the way to 200 and beyond. Been done. I have seen first hand how the 20ga bolt slug rifles have open up new vistas to lower MI hunters. That conversion is also fraught with problems when paired with the AR’s straight mag well. 416R Stainless Steel, Hand Lapped. The use a 275 gr Barnes XPB all copper bullet. amazing rifle for deer. Not only that, we have the best beer, the best beaches, the most culture, the best rivalries (U of M vs MSU), the most attractive women, and Tim Allen and Ted Nugent as our unofficial state mascots. The answer to that is simple: vapid, ignorant bureaucrats in state and local government. That being said and lucky for us there is a new cartridge out there for those hunters that must use straight walled cartridges, the 350 Legend. The trajectory of most .450 factory ammo allows you to zero at about 200 yards and hold right on anywhere inside that. Flattened remingotn 7.5 primers of course are the norm at this point. [3], Bushmaster requested[when?] This guy would argue using a .416 Rigby to hunt a pussy cat. The .450 BM is sort of the Star Wars: The Last Jedi of the cartridge world. Barrels of XM-15 firearms have a heavy profile and are hard chrome-lined 4150 alloy steel or 416 stainless steel. I have 3 of them and every one of them is sub MOA. I wouldn’t build one of those either, as the large amount of case taper in the X39 is much more suited to a heavily curved magazine that rocks backward to lock home, like the AK or Ruger mini rifles do. and 150 is really long. 1 single-shot in stainless and laminate that I have had the pleasure of testing. Ballistically, the .450 Bushmaster has a rather flat trajectory out to 200 yards; if the firearm is zeroed at 150 yards, the user can expect to see a rise of 1.8 inches at 100 yards, zero at 150 yards, and a drop of 4.9 inches at 200 yards. 1) is legal in Iowa There are more and more .450 loads coming out every week, so keep an eye out for new stuff. The polymer mags are even smoother then the included metal ones. My game plan is to put a block in it to make it single shot auto eject gun and use it to hunt for deer in IL in the most politically incorrect way plausible. Oh and p.s. Serial Number Lookup; Instruction Manuals; Mark IV ™ Product Safety Warning and Recall Notice - June 2017; Ruger American ® Pistol Safety Bulletin - October 2018 The .450 Bushmaster is designed to be used in standard M16s and AR-15s, using modified magazines and upper receiver assemblies. I just know what I am doing. If he doesn’t understand why there are so many more options of season and rifles for coyote hunters, he’s not too bright. 10.5″ Fast Twist barrel profile is the same as above, but has a faster 1:10 twist. 1, to some very fine bolt actions, to the much-maligned AR platform in both factory and homemade variations. It has been around for quite a long time as the ‘Remington Maximum’. [citation needed], The .450 Bushmaster makes use of .452 in. That was a good beginner article if I ever saw one.). I hunted with a muzzle brake on my rifle, but I wouldn’t recommend it. in 45 cal, the idea of ballistics is almost irrelevant unless you have ultra magnum amounts of case capacity to drive the higher bc (we’re talking 450g +) projectiles anyway. Except for maybe “Running On Empty”, by Jackson Browne. Other Guns: Savage, CVA, and several other makers have bolt actions, break-actions, and more available. His opinions are just that: opinions. So.. the .450BM guns and ammo should be in the same section of the gun store with the rifled shotgun barrels and slug shells made for such. That’s currently changing, but it has been a long, uphill battle. Or we could make it 10mm bore and just call it the .50 supermag and count on the name to convince people the way they did the .38 special at the turn of the last century. Ill has us beat there . And we’d lose the taper and rebated rim that cause so many problems. The biggest problem I see from all these problems people are having in the AR platforms is they are spending big money on top of the line brand name parts and wasting there money, it may impress there friends, but does nothing for functionality, reliability or accuracy. I have also put the 300 XTP MAG loads in front of 46.0g of Lil Gun and absolutely walloped a good water buffalo, the bullet making a lump in the other side of the still beast where it was easily recovered. Featuring quick-take-down, tools-free disassembly, it’s also a great stowaway emergency/survival gun for the camp, boat, or truck. The scope and rings are NOT included. If you don’t like it that’s fine, stick with bolt guns, because you will never be able to properly use an AR of any platform. That’s a poser. 8.0″ Barrel profile is .900″ under the hand guards, .875″ at the gas block, and .850″ at the muzzle. Rifles and ammo are on the shelves now. Also put took out a half moon in the front of the mags so nothing catches on the rounds. you cannot believe how many people show up with a plastic stocked pump weighing in at 6.5 lbs , and shooting sabot’s with 385 gr at 1900 fps . Its like asking which bikini is best without considering who is wearing it. I can hard cast plain lead in whatever size needed for prototyping and testing, but jacketed bullets will still be needed, somewhere down the timeline. Their practical skills tend to end with addition, as in: “add up this column of figures….”. ; ). I have a bushmaster upper with a ruger muzzle device on a rock river .458 lower with a GL shock stock and mine doesn’t really have much kick at all. And manages to piss off most everyone in the process…, Yes, the Creedmoor isn’t close to a 260 or 280 and no, there is no feeding problems with a 450 BM. I disagree with just about everything in that “article for beginners”! Wouldn’t that be something? Seller: FandWGuns FandWGuns. same problem with the 12 ga full power sabot slugs . You’re close—”Stabenow”, same as the popular Alaskan author. It hammers deer, I’d probably prefer 357 AR rimless max if major manufactures did pressure tests and got 358 rifle bullets hitting 2600 fps ie 180 grain Barnes. Im not enjoying the cost of components though, they are quite expensive, and limited in variety. It’s comparable to a .45-70 and is relatively violent in terms of how much it drives into the shoulder. [4] The cartridge is chambered in bolt action rifles by Ruger, Savage, and Remington, Ruger's No. Youth Patriot models with variable length of pull and 20” barrels are also available. Did I mention it looks like ammo is just a couple dollars more than .556 for FMJ practice rounds ? Almost the whole way through, I’m thinking, “But I have NEVER had a loading or cycling problem with MY AR .450 BM using Brenton USA mags…”, Guess I did my homework first and picked the right magazine maker. The Ruger® Elite 452® AR-Trigger is a two-stage trigger that offers a smooth, crisp, 4.5 pound trigger pull. It IS legal. I found it odd that the author would pick Ted Nugent (self professed pedophile) and Tim Allen (former convicted drug dealer) as the leading representatives of Michigan. The soon-to-be king of all the AR hunting rifles comes from Brenton USA. Available in stainless steel only. I also like my Henry BB in 45 Colt. How can other states even compete? I have counted 50+ deer yarding at one time in a cornfield more than once. yep you win. A lot of what you say is true and if you can handle it IMHO, after 40 years of hunting with many weapons, the 450BM is just about the most effective caliber I’ve ever seen for deer inside of 200 yards. I like that it isn’t a long-range round. I saw the 450 Scout and thought ‘why not’? Hunting rifle, not so much and if you a look at ballistics, velocity is close but you have a bullet with increased caliber and weight. True, but it’s tucked into a corner of the state and is easily avoidable. The 7.62×39 has quite a bit more taper but I keep hearing how the AKs will feed, fire and fling no matter what. Optics / Scope Mounts Michigan may have the best beaches, but Illinois leads in the category of legislative ignorance. It is, in point of fact, a terribly designed cartridge that has a huge number of flaws. With a roughly a .100″ longer case it sits in the sweet spot with a 158gr or 180gr bullet moving at around 2300fps and recoils less than a 243. This rifle has a classic hunting rifle look with the walnut stock and blued finish. They just released a new AR rifle chambered for it. With mid length gas and 20 inch barrel bone stock gas,and bolt it ate everything I put through it. At least you’ll never get called a bigot for saying that you’d rather shoot .45-70, unlike when I say that I’d rather watch the Star Wars Holiday Special than deal with Disney’s SJW agenda. the same lower I still use with a .223 Wylde upper and it functions perfectly with that buffer. If I hunted where a 30-06 was legal I would use it. I enjoy that the .450 has brought a level of sport back to some otherwise foolish and idiotic trends in hunting. Your daughter or someone else? Anything else isn’t worth discussing because Iowa will never change its laws- so I shoot the best of what’s allowed. Hell yes it recoiled more, DUH that was expected. While I rightly despise the 6.5 Creedmoor as the lame imitator that it is, I am a .260 Rem fan. The sign above reads, “bureaucratic compliance equipment.”. It has a 20 inch barrel, medium length gas, and I use a heavy buffer. It’s called a 350 Legend. Threaded, 1/2-28 thread, with barrel nut, handguard cap and front sight housing with bayonet lug, Barrel diameter .750 at front sight base. Love it never haf a problem with the round or the firearm. Henry may be well-known for their lever actions, but they make a single shot .450 Bushmaster too. It’s capable of handling huge bullets over 350 grains, has a .308 case head, making it just a barrel swap on most .308 rifles, and is easily able to kill all North American game with the right bullets, up to and including grizzly. One wouldn’t even need to machine the bolt face. It can be shot out of as classy a rifle as the Ruger No. (57.40 mm) OAL. Gun #: 925352978. Although we sure could stand to have a few more folks out here hunting them, the population is enormous. I ended up having to modify almost every part in the action, including the magazines. Introduced by Bushmaster and Hornady in late 2007, the .450 Bushmaster was an attempt to improve the ballistic performance of AR-15 rifles. Hornady FTX designed for the 460 S&W shot at just over 2600fps across my Chrony from the 16″ barrel. I didn’t modify until I hot loaded it, I put a mid weight buffer in. The beginner isn’t served especially well by the .450 Bushmaster. CALIBER:.450 Bushmaster; LOWER RECEIVER: Forged RRA LAR-15M Multi-Caliber Marked; UPPER RECEIVER: Forged A4; BARREL: 16-inch Stainless Steel, Cryo Treated, 1:24 Twist 2 of the impacts were from the deer running into the side of my car. You need that extra slice of pie? The beginner to the .450 should know that they ought to buy a factory-made .450 rifle, and a bolt-action at that. I live in Michigan too. I have even see 600 gr 3″ at 1730 fps . Maybe bigshot outdoors writers that travel around to all kinds of exciting hunting with different rifles can say differently, but that’s out of touch from an average Joe in Iowa who just wants range, accuracy, and a clean kill. but we will be trying hard to catch up soon. The .450 Bushmaster is descended from the "Thumper" concept popularized by gun writer Jeff Cooper. So I have to ask, by ‘small to medium game at close ranges’ I assume you mean deer out to 500 yards? This article is out of touch. One fireform should do the trick, even though one would need to anneal the brass both before opening up the neck to .416, and again before fireforming out the body taper. Glad Iowa change the laws. bullets. Muzzle brakes are available, supplied with protective barrel cap. I’ve seen it happen frequently. Its like a short action scout rifle 375H&H. But after its initial hang ups it worked flawlessly after 4 or 5 rounds As far as follow up shots, that was not a problem at all, it barely moved off of aim point which is inherent to the AR platform when done right. Here in Illinois, people hunt deer with scoped revolvers in .357 Magnum. Well, I have learned nothing but ranting and whining. In fact, that’s a hell of a good idea. The Bushwhacker has about exactly the same taper as a .223, so I’m guessing it’s the rebated rim that’s the problem. I have been developing loads for a few years now, and can tell you that in the 77 action with the 16″ barrel, you cant overload a 250gn projectile with Lil Gun to the point of destruction. The largest boltface I can find in an AR bolt is the one for the 7.62X39. Hornady has a 250gr FTX load that has been the standard for years. Why not something like .30-30? It still might be doable in a small shop like mine though. I only had my life threatened one of those times. 450 B does about the same at 50 yards, yet has energy and it is accurate and flat out beyond 200 yards- unthinkable for a cannonball out of a shotgun. That might help make up for it not being called a .45 or a .50. This does not have an impact on bolt actions that I’ve seen. The Ridgeline is the quintessential hunting rifle. It still shoots factory just fine as well and also cast if you powdercoat and gas check with sages outdoors gas check (made for AR). Anyway, if you want to feedback on this my email address is: [email protected] dot com, I did not know much about the .450 BM, 1900 words later I still don’t. I have also never had an issue with the rifle not cycling but I do only use five round mags loaded with three rounds. How about something like an elongated .475 Linebaugh with a standard 12mm rim in a DPMS G2? Sometimes we get things for more than just the statistics. It is, in factory form, limited to about 200 yards in the hands of a skilled shooter, but with careful handloads can be pushed another hundred yards or so. 2 Brownells – AR-15 450 Bushmaster Barrel Stainless Steel. I picked up the Ruger and the accuracy rivaled or bettered the AR and when I stepped up the loads beyond what was recommended for the AR I picked up another 250fps over factory ammo and the Ruger never broke a sweat. Almost looks like a rifle bullet! 1 single shot rifle, AR-15 rifles, as well as an AR-15 pistol by Franklin Armory.[5]. Wierd rant in the article…keep it to the guns. The base 336, .450 Bushmaster conversion includes the following: New stainless or chrome-moly barrel, cut to customer’s choice of length; Receiver threads are reamed and recut oversize, in-line with the bolt, and the receiver face is trued So why is it so damn popular today? Why no love for 50 beowulf. I decided on this barrel … 2) is easily the best of those legal in Iowa for rifles, even ahead of 45-70 govt I have hunted deer here since 1974. the 450 BM is overkill on deer and small shooters alike. “Traditional” “sentiment” need not apply. The .450 BM rose to popularity because it’s legal in virtually all of the Midwest and especially in Michigan, which is were just about all the good deer hunting in the world takes place. The first thing that the beginner should understand about the .450 Bushmaster is that it makes very little sense at all. Hornady, Remington and Federal now manufacture ammunition for the rifle, and Starline manufactures empty brass for handloading. Go pout to the state legislature about what is legal, but save your tantrum for them, because hunters have to choose from what is legal right now- and likely to remain so. Depends on what you are looking for. IMHO shows real promise for the recoil sensitive or youth shooters. The stainless-steel cryo-treated barrel is 16 inches long, has a 1:24-inch twist, and comes with an RRA Operator muzzle brake installed. HUNTER .450 Bushmaster rifles include a blued steel barrel that’s 25” for improved recoil resistance. Go make your case to Montana hunters and they’ll choose .30-06 or 7mm or .300 Win Mag almost every time, but as long as the list of legal rifles remains what it is in the Midwest, the 450 Bushmaster is the best alternative to klunky 1 oz hunks of lead lumbering out of pheasant guns we’ve been waiting for. Hand fit everything together ( not slap together and go) I noticed right off the bat the AR 5.56 mag follower would not work. Mine is as accurate as any 45-70 I own ( two, both single shots). Fast forward to 2020 and the 450 is still king of Lower Michigan. Which means that I believe we have not yet arrived at a point where a reliable, big bore, cartridge for the AR platform exists. The .450 Bushmaster is one of the most unlikely cartridges to achieve success in recent years, but I like to think that it has the potential to become a favorite. Its not too hard on the old ears. I did a very large spread on my custom AR-15 build for another publisher and it was nothing but problems. Much better représentatives of the state. Do you have access to manufacturing facilities that might be of use in this project? I have to concur on your sentiments about the deer in Michigan. Instead it’s just a bumbling mess of random features that we somehow have to live with. Hands down one of the most accurate bolt guns I have shot out of the box. Spot on. Great Lakes Firearms AR-15 Barrel .450 Bushmaster 18" Mid Gas 1:24 Steel Black N... Great Lakes Firearms AR-15 Barrel .450 Bushmaster ... Our Low Price $219.97 So now that we’ve established that the .450 isn’t that great a design, we need to look at why it’s actually a terrible cartridge for beginners. That’s just irresponsible. this only makes shooting it worse. Instead, I would probably recommend something like a lever-action .44 Magnum or the like before I told a new hunter to go with this on their first trip. The standard barrel has rifling of 1 turn in 9". Just what you want in a battle rifle. Shop our vast selection and save! Tikka extra large bolt handle. I have built 4 more for relatives and friends and if there ever was any problem with those rifles I would have heard of it. Let me repeat that for you: the .450 Bushmaster owes its success to state laws, not its superior ballistics, marketing, or ease of use. Offered in twenty chamberings, the rifle features a sporter carbon fiber composite gunstock and a stainless steel radial muzzle brake built around a light target contour Christensen Arms carbon fiber wrapped barrel. I’ll draw up some reamer specs over the next couple of days. Im an Australian hunter and have shot many good years with my 45-70 levergun, but two years ago I wanted to jump on the ‘Scout Rifle’ wagon but owned a lot of 308 bolt guns already. Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, and Iowa are among the states where a somewhat new cartridge is taking the woods and fields by storm. You have our attention as well. Barrel lengths up to 24″ available, we have a 23″ barrel to be the optimal length for the 450 Bushmaster cartridge. A ten round 5.56 holds three 450 Bushmaster. Michigan State will always play second fiddle to Michigan. Wondering why someone would want a 450 Bushmaster is like asking why you would want Thor’s hammer. The round is very accurate and I agree its a great 200 yard round, if you get bolt only ammo or hand load 300+ yards. Earlier this summer, Buffalo Bore released four loads to cover everything from deer to grizzly bear. All his whining about “This cartridge is only popular because it’s legal…” is nonsense. Curiously, Ruger also makes a beautiful No. The Barnes or Bear Creek Copper bullets offer better performance in this area. Are there ‘better’ choices? To support the large case head of .450 Bushmaster ammunition, the .450 Bushmaster bolt is engineered with tapered lugs and machined from a high-strength superalloy. It is not over-powered; have you seen what 12 ga slugs do to a whitetail at 50 yards? The scout is 350 more but it is a beauty. For the pigs I hunt in the north, this cartridge is doing great. I like shotguns, but for turkey and such. I’d call that enough for most anything one should want to put down with a 5 pound carbine. It didn’t hiccup once from the first round fired, EVER! Test barrel length: 20 in (508 mm) Source(s): Hornady & Remington: The .450 Bushmaster was developed for big game hunting with modern rifles. That said, the .450 does a great deal right. I own 2, an AR I built(20″ mid gas barrel) and a Ruger American 16″ and never had a problem. Know anyone in the bullet biz? I’ve taken 2 DRT! The Carbine. Modded the bolts for correct function. It’s a 16-inch barrel, a US-made design, and it’s a great solution for anyone wanting to start their next AR build. magazine by changing the follower and tooling the front of the mag to clear the fat round. The SCOUT .450 Bushmaster comes with a 25” (heavier calibers) fluted stainless steel barrel and a DF muzzlebrake. Makes a awesome range toy and will kill anything big enough to die. but that’s not likely to happen. Subscribe for FREE now to ensure you never missa single vital update... ©COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Variants. To each his own but for me I have high hopes for the 450. He claims to have written extensively about this caliber, yet recommends the .44 mag over the vastly superior killing ballistics of 450 B? A semi auto 45-70 that never gives a minute of trouble is unbelievable. 1 - … That only leaves the magazine… Hmmm. The truly amazing thing is that I can coyote hunt year-round with anything smaller than a 6.5 bore day and night, 24/7, but I can’t hunt deer in more than half the state with the same rifle during gun season. A 10-round AR-15 magazine body yields a four-round [6] magazine, a 20-round AR-15 magazine body yields a five- to seven-round [7] magazine, and a 30-round body yields a nine-round [8] magazine. All I’ve heard has been comments like flawless, cannon, DRT, under 1 moa and How much for another ? The answer is in the case. That leaves the ammo to build, but Norma makes 7.62X39 ammo, in brass cases, with boxer priming. Winchester and Remington also make ammo for the .450. Limiting rifle use for deer has never been about ‘safety’ it’s always been about limiting effectiveness- everywhere in the Midwest where rifle hunting has not been legal. Another benefit the .450 has it that it is generally pretty accurate. Doesn’t he get any love? bullets because of the lower impact velocities and energies would not adequately expand the heavier jacketed .458 in. I find that fast follow-up shots are hard to get. the ammunition manufacturer Hornady to produce the .45 Professional cartridge for this project, but Hornady wanted to shorten the cartridge case and overall length to accommodate their 0.452 in. If you want full pass through at 200 yards I would not use the Hornady Black, i does dump all the energy in the Deer but at the cost of none to low blood trail. It is a fun round that you KNOW you’re shooting. another good choice is a 20 ga with a rifled barrel . needless to say shooting these from the bench is absolutely brutal. Considering that most all deer hunting occurs inside 200 yards, with most in Michigan at only about 50 yards, it is certainly overkill. Because a lever action rifle in .357 Magnum would be illegal. 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